Thursday, 30 June 2016

Mural paintings at Wat Chum Saeng Si Wanaram

Mural paintings at Wat Chum Saeng Si Wanaram

location (ubosot with mural paintings):
13.36687, 101.2470 = 13°22'00.7"N 101°14'49.2"E
วัดชุมแสงศรีวนาราม (Wat Chum Saeng Si Wanaram): ทางหลวงชนบทหมายเลข 3014 ต.หมอนนาง อ.พนัสนิคม จ.ชลบุรี

This building with brown terracotta is worth a note as well:













Unsual mural paintings in ubosot (doors of ubosot were closed, but not locked, we had asked staff at the wat before where the mural paintings are and if we could see them):











Deciphered with help of a Thai friend: ชะยะวะฒะนะ 24.4.24 (Cha-Ya-Wa-Ta-Na 24.4.2524 BE = 1981 CE). Same artist as in Wat Phra That Doi Saket วัดพระธาตุดอยสะเก็ด อ. ดอยสะเก็ด จ.เชียงใหม่.

Pictures taken by a friend's drone to avoid distortion (but opening angle not wide enough for whole painting, or opposite wall to close to get away far enough to photograph whole painting):







further reading: http://patricklepetit.jalbum.net/CHONBURI/PHANAT NIKHOM/Wat Chum Saeng Si Wanaram/index.html

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Monday, 27 June 2016

Dating Thai boys (42) Rules for living with a Thai boy

Dating Thai boys (42) Rules for living with a Thai boy

I'm still seeing an ex-boyfriend candidate from 2014 regularly*, or rather he sometimes stays in my room when he has business in Bangkok because his place is far out. He would message me and I would let him in, but we usually left separately. These visits were a few each month. Now in April 2016 I gave him a key so he can come independently of me, which increased number of visits to about two per week and raised some issued I addressed in the following rules.

*no sex, the only reason is convenient location of my room

Rules for living with a Thai boy:
1. If you want to eat cookies or chocolate, bring your own.
2. If you change settings on aircon or water heater, change them back when you are done.
3. Don't move my stuff, better don't even touch it.
4. Don't make any changes to my computer, better don't even touch it.
5. No light or sound while I'm sleeping or trying to fall asleep.
6. If you think my room is dirty, there is cleaning material on the floor behind the public washing mashine.
7. If you continue to use vast amounts of toilet paper and cotton buds (Q-tips (R)), consider bringing your own.
8. Always leave my room in a state that I could bring back a friend without being embarrassed.
9. In my room, waste is separated into paper, metal, glass, plastic and organic.
10. Message me before you come, I might have guests.
11. Don't lock yourself into the bathroom or chain the main door.
12. You sleep in your half of the bed, I sleep in my half. Even better we put a long round pillow between us.
13. Every time I can't find something, the question is: did I misplace it or did he use it and didn't put it back?
14. You are responsible for my stuff, I'm not responsible for your stuff.
15. No music by Michael Jackson, Justin Bieber or Maroon 5 while I'm in my room. (Incomplete, check with me before playing any music.)
16. This, this and this is taboo.
17. No use of parfum in my room. (When boy uses parfum, I can smell it long time afterwards. Now he goes in the hallway to use perfum, and I can smell 5 m away when he enters, but at least it doesn't linger in my room.)
18. Switch off the light in the bathroom when you are done (the problem is rather the fan, which will draw out the cold air from my room.)
19. Switch off the light in the refrigerator when you are done.
(This one is a joke.)
20. Don't put any stuff on the bed (boys put mobile phones, power bank and other stuff on the bed). A farang friend has pencils, glasses and toothpicks (!!!) lying on his bed.
21. If you need to pee, either sit down on the toilet or use the wash basin. (I use the wash basin as pissoir. http://christianpfc.blogspot.de/2015/06/oh-my-god-19-urine-repellant-paint.html The boy pees into the toilet, standing, splashing urine around. At least he puts up the toilet seat. But afterwards, I can smell the urine that splashed on the ceramic.)
22. Post-it is not a notebook! (Thai friend takes notes on post-it, which is a waste.)
23. Don't tip on my chairs! (I never thought that I would have to tell an adult not to tip on chairs!)
To be continued.

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Friday, 24 June 2016

Gay activities April 2016 (1)


Gay activities April 2016 (1)

Fri 01.04.2016
A friend Nus/Nut who is a freelance moneyboy in Pattaya is in Bangkok for a few days. In early 2015, we had a great first encounter, followed by a poor second encounter, details here: http://www.gaythailand.com/forums/topic/9383-i-am-sweet-boy2014-15099672/. Now third encounter so-so. Still great body and cute face, but boring in bed, will probably not meet again.

Seed 23:51-00:34. Nude day not enforced, everyone in towel or underwear. They covered the windows in group rooms, now too dark (there was enough light from road before so at least you didn’t bump into others inadvertently). Over 20 customers, none of them my type. But when I leave one cute boy fully dressed in locker room, plays on his phone, sit next to him and touch his knee, he moves away.

Farose 2, stay 00:58-02:25. About 100 customers throughout. Some nice bodies or nice underwear or nice face, but I’m more tired than horny, and none of them approaches me. Even if I have no sex, their freshly draft coke is delicious (coke in itself and similar drinks are evil, but from time to time I like it, but not from bottle or can!), and can play with their cats.

Mon 04.-Wed 06.04.2016 Uthai Thani
Travel with a Thai friend Win from Nakon Sawan who has a car and his brother (gay as well and bordercase). Tue morning threesome. After 3 days and 2 nights together with both of them, I can confirm my judgement from previous encounter: no character flaws, but I can’t imagine spending the rest of my life with them. Hence no boyfriend, but surely will see them again and invite for trips (I pay for petrol, hotel, food, Win drives us in his car).

Thursday 07.04.2016
Boss (hornet, works in Tesco Lotus Rama 4) arrives 00:18, then we sleep around 00:30. I wake up around 10 and have some cuddling with him until around 11, then let him sleep until he finally wakes up 15:00 and has just time to shower and dress to leave for work 15:30 with 300 Baht for taxi! I can do without sex, but such encounters can screw up my entire day!

Chat with JJ on Line, no show.

Friday 08.04.2016
After over a week without message, Top Suk62 calls. That suits me well. He is near Lotus Rama 4, so I go to wait for him at the pedestrian overpass. Wait 20:26-50 with a confirmation call in between. MISTAKE! Should have gone home and waited in my room, he knows the way.

Long hugging and cuddling, but let’s face it: I don’t get hard from simply hugging him like the first encounters, and he isn’t hard when I take off is pants. Both of us need physical stimulation. I stop before cumming, better to save for sauna visit later.

Seed 00:47-01:47. Nude day not enforced. About 15 customers throughout. At the end one cute boy (the one not interested in changing room last time). Have a grope at the cute boy in dark room: promising.

Farose2, stay 02:10-03:30. Over 50 customers, one clearly my type and several bordercases. Some Chinese. Get blowjob by hairy (in darkness I can live with body hair, just touch somewhere else as long as skin is warm and dry).

Saturday 09.04.2016
Name card to cute boy at book shop in QSNCC, no call. Chat on hornet with a boy Nicky from beyond Minburi. He asks for 2000 taxi money but then pedals back when I ask if he is a money boy. It seems he left his place 19:50 and arrives 22:34, after a detour to Victory Monument to change taxi because first taxi didn’t know the way to Sathorn. Ok in bed, I can live with the big tattoo on back and the pimples (from dirty water in his home province Sukhothai).


He stays over night (if you can call leaving at 4:50 am to go back to work “stay over night”). I give him 1000 (600 taxi coming, 300 taxi return, he can keep the change).

Update June 2016: many chats on Line, but he was not that good that I would give him 1000 Baht for taxi again, and he does not know how to use buses in Bangkok, we didn’t get together again. I am still wondering if he is a moneyboy or really does not know his way in Bangkok, I think it’s the latter. Now no messages for 2 months, I will move on.

Sunday 10.04.2016

Monday 11.04.2016
Dinner with B and N, invite Top Suk62. Shortly after he arrives, he gets a phone call: he has to go to work immediately? Accompany him outside to a dark corner for a goodbye hug and kiss and pass him 200 Baht for taxi.

Chat on Line with Lee (I think he is illiterate, that makes it interesting). Call him 22:05, he is drinking with friends in Ratchada, order him to my room for 23:00. No show. 23:51 call again: no reply.

Wed 13.-Thu 14.04.2016
Spend Songkran with a Farang friend in Suphanburi and Kanchanaburi.

Fri 15.04.2016
Chat with a boy who looks slim on hornet, but then fat in Line and on videochat. Abort! Details here: http://christianpfc.blogspot.de/2016/05/dating-thai-boys-39-youre-not-slim.html

Saturday 16.04.2016
Win from Nakon Sawan asks for 1000 Baht online to repair tire. The first time I send money online to a boy, but in this case you can construct a connection (we have driven over 500 km together on our trip in Uthai Thani) and this is the first money request from him.

Yoi comes for wanking for 500. I ask about one of his friends Nat: Nat is in love with his girlfriend and not interested, nor is any other of his friends!


Then continue to Phoenix 20:18-53. Cute boy is leaving just when I enter. Cute boy’s friend chats me up and is interested. None of the other about 15 customers my type.

Monday 18.04.2016
After many chats with the boy Kiw whom I offed from Screwboys http://christianpfc.blogspot.de/2016/03/screw-boys-update-17mar2016.html, finally both of us are free to meet. But he wants 1700, and does not accept the 1000 I offer. Should have asked that earlier! Would have saved us all the chatting.

But X comes and stays for internet and sex. We haven’t meet for months, so I give him the 800 he asks for.

I have been exchanging smiles with a cute boy at Klong Toey market many times, finally ask for his name and give him my name card: no call.

Tuesday 19.04.2016
Win from Nakon Sawan asks for another 1000 online for his sick brother. Again you can construct a connection: we had threesomes twice. I send him the money, and without prompting he sends a receipt from doctor.

Update June 2016: You would guess the money requests come quicker and the amounts get higher and the reasons become esoteric, but to my surprise, no further money requests!

Tue-Thu 19.-21.04.2016 Hua Hin with JJ
Trip to Hua Hin to visit German friend B and stay in his condo. Invite JJ and offer 1000 Baht for 3 day 2 night trip to Hua Hin, and surprise: after endless chat and several no show in the preceding weeks, he wants to join. Meet at Hua Lampong and take train together.

At night in bed, I am in the mood for sex and indicate so by touching him. But JJ is chatting on his phone with several Farang on several social network and dating apps. I can look over his shoulder and read part of his conversation. Great insight why it often takes so long until I get a reply, and that reply might not answer my question. Shows how disloyal (chatting with someone else while lying next to me, and trip paid by me) and illogical (what’s the point of chatting with someone in Bangkok – and I spotted even Pattaya! – when you are in Hua Hin and won’t be back before next day?).

After one hour, I give up and sleep. B later confirms my judgment: cute face, nice body, but brain dead. Update June 2016: B says JJ often messages him and wants to become his boyfriend or visit him in Germany.

Thursday 21.04.2016
Talk with Top Suk62 on phone, wait for him to call back to come to my room: no call.

Saranrom 22:35-23:57. Promising, count 20 boys during one full round and 12 during a partial round (some the same as in full round). There is a slim boy with brown skin who is chatty, he offers me to grope his dick for 100 Baht, I accept: small dick, 3 fang mook, skin not warm and dry.

Friday 22.04.2016
Chat on hornet with a boy C (from Cambodia, but can read and write Thai) lives nearby and comes to see me, too fat as I already thought from pictures. And make-up which I don’t like. After exchanging a few sentences in my room (good English), he takes shower before I can come up with a reason not to have sex. Afterwards we get naked and fool around, but I don’t get hard. Say goodbye, no money changes hands.

Chat on Line with Kiw screwboys and agree on 1000. The chat was 18:01-19:15, he said he is on the way, but then tells me has to go to see a doctor. Thus, I lose one hour of valuable Friday evening time. I was in my room so I could read and play on internet, but I couldn't arrange anything with other boys or make other plans.

Nature Boys 20:37. 4 Boys fully dressed outside, manager Nong inside, don’t order drink. (Info from Nature Boys regular customer: too early, more boys later.)

Golden Cock 20:38. 2 Boys outside and 5 boys inside, all fully dressed. Some look cute. Don’t order drink.

Super A 20:40-21:20. So-so. 6 Boys in underwear, at least 6 fully dressed staff, 3 customers. Too hot. Music and light ok. Smoking allowed and it smells. One boy with nice bulge, one boy with cute face but man boobs.

The Sun 1 hour oil massage 500 Baht + happy ending 1000 Baht. Massage and afters ok, but have to adjust aircon several times (I don’t like airflow).

Maxi’s 22:40-00:00. By chance, a friend is there, otherwise I would just have walked through Soi Twilight. Noise and second hand smoke. Fresh Boys and X-Boys look promising when walking past. 

Saturday 23.04.2016

Waterboy Onsen 18:12-40. Jacuzzi warm but no bubbles, the single other customer gives me blowjob in locker room.


Phoenix 19:45-21:08. About 25 customers, 2 cute and 1 bordercase. One cute boy I know from last time (not interetested), follow other cute boy to darkroom and chat him up: not interested.

Seed 23:58-00:28. Nude day not enforced, all other customers in towel and 3 fully dressed sitting in locker room for long time. Behind stairs on ground floor, there is an inflatable pool (left from songkran?). Structural changes on several floors, busy in darkroom, but it’s dangerously dark. Balconies are blocked with garbage, poor airflow for heat exchanger and cannot access balcony.

Farose 2, stay 00:50-01:40. Pool in garden no more light and water play, Jacuzzi has current but water cold and no bubbles, over 100 customers, excessive smoking in disco and garden, 3 Farang customers (one Bruce Willis look-alike), some bordercase cute Thais, some nice bodies or underwear.

4 Saunas in one night, but nobody for me.

End of April in next report together with begin of May.

Summary (Apr 1st to 23rd):
6 paid sex: Nus/Nat 1000, Top Suk62 500, Yoi 500, X 800, JJ 1000, massage The Sun 1000 = 4800.
4 free sex: Win+Bom, Farose 2, Nicky (but 1000 for taxi), Waterboy Onsen.
3 no sex: Boss 300, Top Suk62 200, feel dick in Saranrom 100, hornet C = 600.
5 no show: JJ, Lee, Kiw (didn't accept 1000), Top Suk62, Kiw (agreed on 1000)

10 saunas: Seed, Farose 2, Seed, Farose 2, Waterboy Onsen, Phoenix, Waterboys Onsen, Phoenix, Seed, Farose 2.
3 gogo: Classic Boys, X-Size, Super A.
2 massage: Bank Lao 500+300 (no sex), The Sun 500+1000.
2 hornet: Thai boy too fat (don’t even meet), C meet in my room: too fat.
 
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Tuesday, 21 June 2016

Grand Canyon Chonburi

Grand Canyon Chonburi แกรนแคนยอน ชลบุรี

Grand Canyon Chonburi is an abandoned quarry with a lake:



The lake is here (not on map, but on satellite image):
13.3219603,100.9820512 = 13°19'19.1"N 100°58'55.4"E
It's best accessed from the south. There are roads to the north parallel to railway track on both sides, but these are in poor condition.

Signs in Thai to parking lot (left path leads closer to Grand Canyon Chonburi than right path).



View point (sign translates: view point, don't lean on the fence) with stalls that sell food and drink.


 

Railway (double track) passes very close. I drove past on train twice, but didn't notice.



I guess there was a rockslide that affected the railway track and was repaired with a lot of concrete (material from rock slide now green with vegetation, whereas rock elsewhere bare):




Aerial pictures by a friend's drone (whole Grand Canyon Chonburi, railway line, half of Snow Rock Chonburi
(details in previous post), north is down):



Detail railway track, rockslide repaired with concrete, view point (right side under the trees):



There are more places named "Grand Canyon" in Thailand:
Pha Cho ผาช่อ in Chiang Mai province (natural)
abandoned quarry in Chiang Mai province (artificial)
Sam Pan Bok สามพันโบก in Ubon Ratchathani province (natural)
abandoned quarry in Ubon Ratchathani province (artificial)

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Saturday, 18 June 2016

Snow Rock Chonburi

Snow Rock Chonburi ภูเขาหิมะ ชลบุรี

I learnt of Snow Rock Chonburi here: http://bk.asia-city.com/travel/news/magical-places-you-wont-believe-thailand and then found it's close to Grand Canyon Chonburi (upcoming post).

picture from link above

The one near Grand Canyon Chonburi is here:
13.3232714,100.9849764 = 13°19'23.8"N 100°59'05.9"E
but less impressive:





I was lucky that a fire cleared all the vegetation between Grand Canyon Chonburi and small Snow Rock Chonburi:





View of part of Grand Canyon Chonburi and Snow Rock Chonburi and Wat Nanthawan (green in the background, I have been before: http://christianpfc.blogspot.de/2013/12/wat-nanthawan-near-chonburi.html) from drone:


and from Grand Canyon Chonburi viewpoint (now chedi of Wat Nanthawan clearly visible in green):


Armed with the impression from my visit to Grand Canyon Chonburi and small Snow Rock Chonburi, I checked on google maps (satellite and street view), and found the big one must be here: 13.3048402,100.9783856 = 13°18'17.4"N 100°58'42.2"E


from google maps street view

The blue signs say โางโม่หินพระเสริฐศิลา บริษัท บี.อาร์.เอ็นยิเนียริ่ง จำกัด (นามประเสริฐ) and  ถนนส่วนบุคคล. "Prasert Sila Stonemill company B.R. Engineering limited" and "private property". But the fact that google street view cars went there shows that it's accessible to public. Will be back some day for the big Snow Rock Chonburi.

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Wednesday, 15 June 2016

Oh my God! Farting animals

Oh my God! Farting animals

Sleeping puppy farts so loud that it wakes up:



from: https://www.facebook.com/UnglaublichAberWahr1/videos/1013872055327526/

Does a deer fart in the woods?



from: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9GU4P-1AWI

(I took a picture of a sign "no farting" in a songtheo in Pattaya, will insert here when I find it.)

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Sunday, 12 June 2016

Dating Thai boys (41) Blocked!

Dating Thai boys (41) Blocked!

Communication with Thai boys can be cumbersome, and sometimes I don't know if he is logged off, reads my messages but doesn't answer, doesn't read or blocked me.

For the intricacies of written communication read here:
http://christianpfc.blogspot.de/2014/10/dating-thai-boys-non-verbal-electronic.html  

I've been blocked once on gayromeo, and I had to block two contacts on Line.* But what exactly happens if you block someone or more important if someone blocks me? How do I know if my messages are just not read or I am blocked?

Line

I tried this with a friend: the blockee's messages are not shown on the blocker's Line. After unblocking, you can continue chatting as if nothing happened, the messages you sent while you were blocked are not shown on the blockee's Line and not marked as read on the blocker's Line.

I don't know if I'm blocked or the receiver just didn't read my messages.

I have some boys who don't read my messages, but their profile picture changes from time to time. I even commented on their timeline, no reply. I don't know why they would block me (and why I would still be able to comment on their pictures), and am still looking for another explanation. 

A month ago, I caught a look at a Thai friend's Line, and he had 13,621 [sic] unread messages. 

Pictures and videos on Line are stored for a certain time (some months) and then will be deleted, but text and sticker seem to remain unlimited. There is a button "keep" to keep pictures and videos longer. I found this by chance when I was looking for a picture a friend sent me months ago: it was gone! 

Facebook

A Farang friend suddenly could not access the facebook of a Thai friend and was wondering if the Thai blocked him, so we tried out what happens when you block someone. I blocked my Farang friend on facebook main site (you can block someone just from sending you messages as well). That un-friended him automatically.

You cannot block someone by accident, there is a message that asks for confirmation and another that confirms you blocked someone. (His Thai friend claimed he blocked him by accident, after originally denying blocking him at all.)

When blocked, blocker and blockee can't sent messages "You cannot reply to this conversation" and you will be unable to view the profile you blocked, and the blockee will be unable to view your profile. 

I know of a few cases where boys forgot their facebook password and couldn't log in and created a new profile. 


I just noticed facebook shows only the last 16 chats, before I could access all chats. That might be because I installed facebook messenger on my phone. On my phone, I can access all messages. Annoying, I am looking for a chat I had 2 years ago and can't access it on my computer.

And once case I cannot explain: I can't open the profile, I can't message him "This person isn't receiving messages from you right now", but can still see profile picture in chat.  

Gayromeo
 
I can see the profile that blocked me in my list of saved profiles, but when I want to open it I get an error message:

Error: Blocked!
XXX (Profile No. XXX) has blocked you.
Therefore you cannot view his profile.  
Block this user too 

No ambiguity, I know I am blocked!

*The boy on gayromeo blocked me after I send 2 or 3 messages (read but no answer). I had to block Z on Line after I wrote him twice that I'm busy and can't chat now and he kept messaging me. The other one was a case of "wrong number" (a friend's phone number expired and got assignes to a new SIM-card, and the buyer of that SIM-card became friend on Line via the phone number). That person - a complete stranger - kept messaging me, and after weak and strong hints that I'm not interested, I had to block her. 

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Thursday, 9 June 2016

Ganesha statue in Narathiwat town

Ganesha statue in Narathiwat town

location:
6.4255158,101.8203737 = 6°25'31.9"N 101°49'13.3"E
next to Chao Mae Kow Leng Jee Shrine ศาลเจ้าแม่โก้วเล้งจี่




Official name Shri Ganesha Statue ประติมากรรมพระพิฆเนศ.


Surroundings decorated with mosaics from pebbles:





Ganesha is looking eastwards, hence best visited in the morning; in the afternoon/evening you have the sun behind the statue (I went in the evening, hence sky overexposed on pictures).

Article in Thai with more pictures: http://www.manager.co.th/Travel/ViewNews.aspx?NewsID=9580000108054 

draft Largest and most beautiful Ganesha statues in Thailand (in no particular order, just counting)
1+2 Chachoengsao Wat Saman Rattanaram (2 statues)
3 Chachoengsao standing Ganesh metal largest in the world
4 Chachoengsao Wat Prong Akat
5 Nakon Nayok Ganesha park
6 Kanchananburi on hwy to Sanklaburi
7 Chiang Mai largest wooden Ganesha in the world
8 Ratchaburi Suan Pueng
9 Dragon Coffe Korat
10 Hat Yai http://hiking-activities.blogspot.de/2016/03/thailand-dan-noks-largest-india.html
11 Chiang Rai Wat Rong Khun http://www.manager.co.th/Travel/ViewNews.aspx?NewsID=9570000080484&Html=1&TabID=3&
12 Singburi province Wat Pikul Thong วัดพิกุลทอง 
see here as well under Ganesha http://christianpfc.blogspot.de/2015/05/unusual-wats.html 


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Monday, 6 June 2016

Gay saunas general observations and thoughts


Gay saunas general observations and thoughts

Based on about 200 visits over 3 years to all gay saunas that currently exist in Bangkok.

Few attractive boys in saunas
In saunas, there are few or no boys I find attractive, compared to life outside. Why is that? It might be the poor light, it might be that I like straight boys, it might be that I prefer 18-25 year olds, who probably don’t have the money and time to go to a sauna.

But most important: If you are handsome, you don’t have to go to sauna, you get offers for free or paid sex all around! Handsome boys don’t have to spend time and money to go to a sauna, they will have other boys coming to a place of their choice at a time of their choice. (Assuming my standards for handsome are shared by many, that would explain lack of handsome boys in sauna.)

Most saunas are full of 40 year olds, but few 20 year olds. Considering there are as many 20 year olds as 40 year olds, and the 20 year olds have a higher sex drive, where do they go for sex?

Critical mass and turnover
A sauna needs a critical mass (or better volume, area, customer number). If there are 10 customers, you walk through once, and then boredom sets in. Some places have internet, then I can at least surf the internet and after half an hour check again (my mode of operation in Seed).

Big saunas like Babylon or Farose don’t have this problem. In Farose, I once met a Farang friend by chance, both of us have been there for over an hour, but it took one hour until our paths crossed!

This leads to "one more round". You could meet the boy of your dreams on the last round in these big saunas. And then another "last round" and another.

Let’s say a sauna has 100 customers and a turnover of 50 customers per hour. That means you walk through in 10 minutes and have a look at the 100 customers. Then you would have to wait for 2 hours to see 100 other customers. That’s why I now often go to 2 and sometimes even 3 places in one night (if location permits and time is right), in and out in under 30 minutes if there is nothing for me instead of wasting my time waiting.

Moods in Seed
Seed is special in not having private rooms, all activity has to take place in dark room where everyone has access. Over my many visits to Seed, I noticed there are 3 moods:

1. Everyone is walking around and waiting for something to happen.
2. Couples are active in dark room, but don't want anyone to join. (Sometimes they even lock themselves in the bathroom.)
3. Group orgies in darkroom, everyone can join and touch, suck, wank, fuck within reason.

It's a matter of luck (or waiting long time) which mood it is.

Light in gay saunas
All gay saunas I visited ranged from barely acceptable to too dark. Frequent change from well lit (computer or porn) to poorly lit areas is not just an inconvenience, but a health risk as well (eye strain = asthenopia).  
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asthenopia

The eye slowly adapts to low level of light. People who are in a darkroom can see who enters, whereas those who enter cannot see yet who is in the darkroom.

Science note:
The human eye has extreme sensitivity to light, after about 20 minutes of adaptation in absolute darkness, it can detect flashes caused by single alpha particles on a fluorescent screen. This is demonstrated in a Spinthariscope.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinthariscope

Adaptation to darkness is a slow process, adaptation to light is fast. Certain types of lighting can be detrimental to adaptation and overall decrease visibility (i.e. one could see better without the light): flashing lights (Macho Sauna), bright spot light (like the lights on the stairs in Phahon Cinema, the brightness prevents adaptation, but it doesn’t illuminate the area much), stray light rays (Seed had some stray light rays from road in their dark rooms).

Related observation:
When I was in the army, I had night patrol with a boy from Berlin. He pointed out that there are so many stars in the sky. I thought he is gay, but a year later when I studied in Berlin and noticed he is right: due to electrical light everywhere, your eyes don't adapt to darkness and there is light pollution and you can see only few stars.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_pollution 

Entry prices
Some places have one price throughout, others separate prices for weekdays and weekend, time of the day (or rather night) and some have lower prices for young customers or higher prices for old customers (bordering on ageism in R3 sauna where over 50 year olds pay double price). Lowest entry price is 100 Baht (M-Place and Seed), highest 230 Baht (Babylon and Chakran).

Types of rejection
Occasionally I come across an arrogant asshole, look at him invitingly and he will look back as if I had insulted his mother. Touch him and he will look back “if looks could kill” (not that that would prevent me from doing it again, I enjoy annoying arrogant assholes and hypocrites). Might not be polite, but at least it’s quick and clear.

Then there are boys who ignore my advances. Not a clear rejection, might be just shy and I wasted a lot of time pursuing them. I had one case of a boy in Farose 2 this year, our paths crossed later in the locker room, and he told me he is interested, but not in presence of his friends.

Walking away is a clearer sign of rejection, however it might not be clear if he wants you to follow to a room. I had such a case in 2013 in Babylon sauna, a boy who didn’t give a clear signal, but after I followed him for a while we ended up in a room, and he became my favorite boy for a year from there on.

And then there are other customers who do not understand the signals. Sometimes I am the subject of a customer who does not understand I am not interested, but usually a polite but firm "no" or shaking my head is sufficient. But in Vietnam (Saigon and Hanoi), I had a few cases where I had to flee the sauna to escape some particularly persistent customers.

Thoughts on gay saunas by fuelmix / fuel injected male
worth a read:
http://fuel-injected-male.blogspot.com/2016/01/gay-blackmail-in-hong-kong-4.html (scroll down to Why The Gay Saunas Win Most Of The Time, although the rest is interesting, too)

To Why The Gay Saunas Win Most Of The Time I would add: 
There is little talk in saunas. When I observe Thai boys elsewhere, often foul language puts me of. People in saunas don't wear cosmetics. When I observe Thai boys elsewhere, cosmetics put me off (a problem with gay boys, but not with straight boys).
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