Monday, 21 August 2017

repost: Weekend in Chachoengsao 31.08.-01.09.2013


repost: Weekend in Chachoengsao 31.08.-01.09.2013

originally posted here (on three forums in identical form):

http://gaybuttonthai.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=6019&start=0
http://sawatdeenetwork.com/forum/aug-weekend-chachoengsao-2013-t29585.html
http://www.gaythailand.com/forums/topic/9142-weekend-in-chachoengsao-3108-01092013/

new comments in italic and links to photobucket replaced by uploading the pictures directly.


Spoiler: no sex, no drama, no drugs, no trannies, everything runs roughly according to my plans.


Tourism (Wat Saman Rattanaram (Ganesha statue) (วัดสมานรัตนาราม), Wat Chin Pracha Samoson (Wat Leng Hok Yi) (วัดจีนประชาสโมสร วัดเล่งฮกยี่), Wat Sothon Wararam Woraviharn (Wat Hong) (วัดโสธรวรารามวรวิหาร), World Sand Sculpture exhibition), Nightlife, ChristianPFC tries so change according to advice given in “Almost there (getting laid locally)”


There are some popular markets in Chachoengsao province, one was covered recently (2013 on the gay forums by a member), but they are of little interest to me.

Chachoengsao (ฉะเชิงเทรา also known as Paet Rio (Paed Riu, 8rio (paed=8)) แปดริ้ว, province east of Bangkok). I will abbreviate it as CCS. On my trip I saw less than 10 Farang in two days.

I have an acquaintance from Camfrog in Chachoengsao, whom I wanted to meet on Sunday, his day off. We did not meet, but after four years of dating Thai boys I know that they have problems with space-time coordination and planed accordingly. This is the tipping point: now I can go to any province for weekend trips without needing to know anyone there (so far, I always needed a peg to go somewhere).

Preparation for this trip was just a few hours reading on the internet and saving webpages downloaded there on my mobile phone, and taking pictures of the relevant pages in tourist guides with my mobile phone for reference (so I don’t have to carry the whole book). Everything else by asking locals.

My reputation as a cheapskate whoremonger has not yet reached Chachoengsao, so I could make a fresh start there. (But a friend who comes from CCS messaged me just hours after I posted a picture on facebook.)

Friday, 30.08.2013

Take van from Ekkamai bus station (no big buses, but there seem to be big buses from Mor Chit). Slow traffic along On Nut, and the van stops at the bus center at the airport! If I had known before, I could have gotten directly to the airport, faster and cheaper than via Ekkamai.

My friend cannot have guests, so I need a hotel. I didn’t make any plans, just asked a tuk-tuk driver at the bus station if he knows a hotel in walking distance to the railway station. I ended in Yenjit Bungalow. I later found out that they are listed in agoda: http://www.agoda.com/asia/thailand/chachoengsao/yenjit_bungalow_and_resort.html The price on agoda is cheaper, but after taxes it’s the same as the walk-in rate (600 Baht per night). It’s located at the end of an alley, over 100 m from the main road, and the sign at the main road is only in Thai. Most Thais I talked with in CCS have heard of it.





If you come by car, they have bungalows for drive-in as well:



The owner (?) speaks good English and helped me to find public transport. Wifi is free, fast (tested with videos on youtube, no problem) and straightforward (password is on the key tag; I just tried with the strongest network and it worked).

I call my friend, he cannot meet me on Friday or Saturday evening after work, only on Sunday. It’s too early to go to bed. I go to Suan Somdet Phra Sri Nagarindra Park (สวนสมเด็จพระศรีนครินทร์). Unlike most parks in Bangkok, it is open all time. There are groups of boys and girls out drinking and listening to music and driving around on their motorbikes. Boys who drive past on a motorbike smile at me or say hello. It’s ghetto style: screeching tyres, incomplete combustion (dark exhaust fumes), exhaust modified to make it louder, cars that are a driving discotheque. Quite different from Bangkok!

Making contact is easy, you just have to walk past and there is a 50% chance someone will say hello, smile or even invite you for a drink. And if there is a cute boy who doesn’t notice me, I just ask for the way and see where this leads. On the trip I spoke to more than 50 Thais, several of them my type. After about 1 hour in the park, I proceed to the river shore. Again groups of boys and girls.

I want to go home to sleep, by chance my way leads past the biggest nightclub, Dome. What I see outside is promising. I go in (23:55, purchase of one drink – in my case Beer Singha for 100 Baht – is compulsory). It is large, about thrice the size of DJ station or NAB. About half full, which allows easy roaming, as I like it. I spot a table with cute boys and while I still think how to find an excuse how to join the, one of them raises his glass to me. I join them and will stay there the rest of the night. The cutest boy is opposite. Again no need to look for a way to get next to him, it happens after some shifts. It is too loud to exchange more than a few sentences. I have my earplugs in. Later, they ask me if I could pay for another bucket of ice (80 Baht), which I do (and order a bowl of crisps for 50 Baht as well). I even okayed the purchase of another bottle of whisky (220 Baht?), but the order was never placed. How do I get the cute boy into my room? By the time (2:30 am) I have come up with an idea (ask him if he has a motorcycle and can drive me back), they are leaving. I stay till closing time (3am), some customers are so drunk, they have to be carried out. Plenty of broken glass and spoiled drinks on the floor.

I go home alone. Nonetheless, an interesting new experience, and no lack of cute boys and social interaction. It seems there is no age restriction in the disco. About 5% of the customers are under 18 years old (my estimation, I asked just one and he is 17). Unfortunately, smoking is allowed. Clothes smell of smoke when you come back home, and I got a burn on my finger from someone else’s cigarette. No burn holes in my clothes so far. Aircon is insufficient, I think it was well above 25 C inside.

Summary: there are many cute boys in the park, along the river and in the disco. Getting into contact is easy. Now I just need a way to take them to my room, be it for free or for pay. One constraint is that they come by motorbike, with two or three on each motorbike. How can I separate the cute one to go to my place on motorbike? Do these boys lend their motorbike to friends?

Saturday 31.08.2013

The Ganesha temple (the world’s largest Ganesha in happy reclining posture) is out of town, about 10 km to the east on an island in the Bang Pakong river. I walk to the bus station (with stop at the railway station, due to rain). There are a song thaew from the bus station, it takes 30 minutes and costs 30 Baht. (I had to ask where the song thaew leave, there are no signs.) I would estimate the size similar to that in Nakhon Nayok, but Nakhon Nayok has two statues. In CCS it’s a whole complex: Ganesha, Guan Im, another statue under construction, market, restaurants, it was much busier than in Nakhon Nayok. Boat rides around the island are available for 300 Baht per boat (6 people). Website (in Thai): http://www.watsaman.org/

A large market and many restaurants are in the temple complex.



Betel nut sold at the market:


The largest Rahu statue in Thailand: (that's what the sign says, there are statues of similar size elsewhere)


Guan Im statue:



The major difference from the Ganesha in Nakhon Nayok (I confused the two on pictures, before I learnt that there are two of them) is the 32 postitions around the base:


You can walk inside the base, there is a shop. Same for the Guan Im statue.

Ganesha with 108 hands (I didn’t count, the sign says so)
(พระพิฆเนศ ปางปาฏิหารย์ ๑๐๘กร):


I did not remember where exactly I got off the song thaew, and can’t see any signs of public transport back to Chachoengsao. So I ask a police officer about transport back. He calls a colleague who takes me back for free on his motorbnike. Not exactly back to CCS, but to the Chinese temple with a tall tower (I noticed the tower on the way to the Ganesha temple and took a picture to ask for details). Wat Chin Pracha Samoson (Wat Leng Hok Yi) (วัดจีนประชาสโมสร วัดเล่งฮกยี่)


The tower is still under construction:


The temple is about 200 m south of the tower.






About 200 m north of the tower is the Tewasatharn Riew Yiang Tai, maintained by the Sawang Satthatammasatharn Foundation (เทวสถานวิหาร ริ้วเยี้ยงไท้ มูลนิธิสว่างศรัทธาธรรมสถาน):


I call my Camfrog acquaintance (after waiting an hour for a reply to my sms) to make a date for Sunday. He said he will be in Bkk on Sunday and we can meet at Victory monument. I will show the messages (in Thai) we exchanged on facebook and elsewhere to Thai friends and ask them if it’s not crystal clear that I was coming to CCS to meet him there. I learnt the hard way that there can be misunderstandings and changes and in a Thai boy’s plan at any moment, and plan accordingly, so I can just shrug this off. Evil forces in the universe.

At night, a stroll through the park and along the river. Some boys remember me from Friday. Now there are only 73 provinces left where I can go for a fresh start (hook up with boys). A group of boys stand around a car, one of them is cute. I join them for a chat. They ask me if I like girls, I reveal that I like boys, everyone takes a step back, like “don’t touch me”, and there is a gap in the conversation, until one of them continues: “do you like him?”. From this and from previous similar encounters, I conclude that revealing my sexual orientation is a roadblock to getting laid (I will elaborate on this in another post). I ask the cute boy for his name and use this occasion to shake his hand and tickle his palm with my finger (meaning: I want sex with you). Is this a good idea and generally understood? Our ways cross later in Dome, but nothing ensues.

I enter Dome at 23:35 it is full, difficult to get around. There is a table with three cute twinks, I join their table, but they don’t show interest in me. Is this common practice, as a single customer, to simply join a table that has space left to put your glass or bottle on it? Staff sometimes splits tables, i.e. move all bottles from two tables onto one to allow a new group of customers to use the now empty table.

I wish I had a way to spend more time in the bathroom. Good light and you can get a glimpse of skin and underwear.

A fight breaks out elsewhere. Lights go on in that part and staff has problems to get through to separate the parties and throw them out. On passing my table, someone tries to grab my empty bottle (probably for use as a weapon), I am quick and hold it, but I get an angry look.

No further incidents, go home alone.


(full album of pictures here: http://s1084.photobucket.com/user/christianpfc/library/Chachoengsao%20Aug%202013)

(Album still accessible on photobucket on 16jul2017, but not long ago photobucket dis-allowed links from other websites.)

Copyright 2013 ChristianPFC

Friday, 18 August 2017

Wat Phrong Akat in Chachoengsao province

Wat Phrong Akat in Chachoengsao province
วัดโพรงอากาศ (พระอาจารย์สมชาย) อ.บางน้ำเปรี้ยว จ.ฉะเชิงเทรา

The temple boasts a huge chedi and a huge Ganesha statue, picture of entire complex by a friend's drone:



Chedi from air:



ground floor under the chedi:



inside the chedi (can't climb up):



one of the two small chedis:



and the entire chedi complex from ground:



Ganesha statue from air:



Ground level inside a collection of statues of Ganesha in various poses:





Ganesha with surroundings from ground:



There is an interesting concentration of Ganesha temples in Chachoengsao (Wat Saman Rattanaram วัดสมานรัตนาราม, Wat Phrong Akat and standing Ganesha at อุทยานพระพิฆเนศ องค์ยืน คลองเขื่อน ฉะเชิงเทรา) and Nakorn Nayok (Ganesha Park อุทยานพระพิฆเณศ). The fours places with the five largest Ganesha statues in Thailand (two in Ganesha Park) maximum 63 km by air away from each other.

(It was a dusty day with poor light, aerial pictures processed.)

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Tuesday, 15 August 2017

Gay activities Jul 2017

Gay activities Jul 2017

Details about Safe House (Sukhumvit Soi 78), Silom/Surawong update, seducing straight boys.

Sun 25jun2017 (better fits here than in June)
Safe House (sauna in Sukhumvit Soi 78) not open yet. The label says opens 7 pm, but the owner (who lives in the building?) says they changed it to 6 pm. State cinema reported in June. On hornet, chat with a cute boy Lek, move chat to Line.

Sat 1jul2017
After several chats over the week, time to go to see Lek in Samut Prakarn.

The usual problem: boy does not know the way to my place, and has no money for taxi anyway, so I have to go to pick him up near his place, in this case at Paolo Memorial Hospital Samut Prakarn, about 2 hours trip with traffic jam by bus for me.

I do such trips only after efficient communication, and better even a video chat, on Line. If a boy is slow in replying, or does not answer call, I rather find someone else who does.

Meet there and yes, I want to get my hands into his pants. I invite him to Imperial Samrong for dinner (taxi 73 Baht, foodcourt for two 150 Baht). Then he asks me “What else do you want to do?” A straight question deserves a straight answer “I want to have sex with you”. He agrees. But taking him to my place would take too long, and then I would have to give him money for taxi to return. But I did choose Imperial Samrong wisely because Safe House sauna is nearby, and I will take him there!

Safe House 20:08-36. Entry 100 each. Everything as I remember from my last visit http://christianpfc.blogspot.com/2015/09/safe-house-sauna-in-samrong.html, still the best value for money in Bangkok! When we enter, two other customers, one of them very shapely and I would have had a further look despite him being heavily tattooed, if I had been alone.

Shower separately and then up to the rooms. Lek is slim and brown and warm and dry skin, all perfect. But the walls of the room do not reach the ceiling, and from being afraid someone looks over the wall, he loses his erection, so I have to hurry to cum before he loses interest.

He recommends going to a short time hotel, which rents over night as well, near his place next time. Perfect, so I will stay there over night and can cross off Samut Prakarn off my list of provinces where I stayed over night (being so close to Bangkok, there is no other reason to stay there), and combine with sightseeing in Samut Prakarn the following day.

Give him 100 for taxi (the fare for coming here was 73), he asks for 100 more, we are already going down this slippery road! But altogether, a good start for the month. (Didn’t have time to go to see him again, however in subsequent chat he asked me to send 200 online, which I declined, but offered 200 cash next time we meet.)

Tue 4jul2017
Rit the Muslim, this time I forbid him to take pictures or video. 1000 well deserved.

In the afternoon go to meet a boy Dream in Central World, a “maybe”, but neither of us has texted the other afterwards.

Wed 5jul2017
I have business in Silom, time for a stroll and some updates (mixed from several days in July).

Thai Best Massage in Silom Soi 8 is gone


Health Massage (?) in Silom 64 building is gone, no more boys and not even a sign left.

Fresh boys and X-Size boys in white briefs. Lee the analphabet outside X-Size fully dressed at bar 22:08, next time ask if he does massage, then I will go for him! (Arranging a meeting when I first met him last year failed because he cannot read and write English and Thai).

Jupiter 2018 (Jupiter 2002 moved from Surawong to Silom Soi 4), from street spot boys in trousers 21:58. Ask staff: for show 22:15 there will be boys in underwear. But I don’t want to wait, and boys in trousers is not worth supporting even at just (relative to Soi Twilight) 250 Baht.

The building behind Classic Boys and the beer bar is being demolished.


Next to Classic Boys, used to be an apple store (?) has been a hostel for many months already:


Thu 6jul2017
Go to Pinklao to meet a boy Chin from hornet. He asked me to invite him to cinema, and wants to watch Spiderman Homecoming. Not my first choice, but I agree.

No sign of the boy fishing for an invitation to my room, anyway no sex after midnight, say goodbye but I surely want to get my hands into his pants another day.

Fri to Mon 7-10jul2017 long weekend in Chaiyaphum. A friend from Myanmar joins all the trip and we share a hotel room, but we do not go beyond a few hugs and gropes.

Mon 10jul2017
Chat with Chin Pinklao from 18:20-19:16, I try to get him to take bus (he doesn’t like bus) or taxi (I offer return fare) to come to my room, at the end he asks for unspecified amount of money, I tell him the taxi will cost about 100 each way and I will pay for it, then he tells me he is too tired for traveling (he might have been fishing for 1000 for short time).

Wasted one hour (doing other things in parallel, but couldn’t chat with other boys), however I suspected early on this will fail.

Message several other boys, not free or no reply, among them Kuk Chan finally: not interested in sex with me again, details here: http://christianpfc.blogspot.com/2017/07/dating-thai-boys-55-im-busy.html

Wed 12jul2017
Resume contact with a straight boy GPlok whom I have known for almost two years (in between he was without phone, months without messages). He is free to meet and would like to bring his younger brother as well. Younger brother sounds great! (In Thai, น้องน nóng can refer to any younger sibling, and only on the way in taxi to pick him up I realized that it could a well be a younger sister!). On time, taxi back to my room.

Let them play on my computer in my room for about 2 hours, but then I realize I have to tell them what I’m looking for, something I’m not good at. So I start asking if they know Saranrom, then tell him I used to go there looking for boys, and used to pay 500 for wanking, but now there is nobody left. GPlok tells me he once went with a Thai there, and from we quickly get to business.

I was wondering what to do with his younger brother (too fat for my taste), let him wait outside my room or in my toilet, but GPlok asks if I want both of them, an offer I cannot reject. All of us cum, and GPlok is shapely and has a big dick (I measured 15 cm semi-erect afterwards), but involving his brother was a waste of money. Next time only GPlok.

Not even out of the door, GPlok asks when we can meet again. I don’t know, and first I have to wean him off me coming to pick him up by taxi. Should have told him to pay attention to the way when we took taxi to my room, so he can do alone next time.

Fri 14jul2017
A Farang friend is in Sake and invites me, and I can bring a boy. Message Chin Pinklao, and he is very interested and is there on the main road even before I arrive. However he is 19 years old and minimum age is 20, so they won’t let him in. We chat on main road, he is reluctant to come to my room because he has to work at 10 am tomorrow (but he can go to disco!), but finally agrees to go with me.

Back in my room, after prying him loose from his mobile phone (weak hints do not work, strong hints do not work, just grab that damn phone, throw it on the floor and step on it), everything fine in bed, worth a repeat.

He wears cosmetic contact lenses (I didn’t notice) and tells me his eyes hurt from the contact lenses. Stores them in tap water in my bathroom while we have sex.

Dress and go down to main road with him to hail a taxi. Give him 100 Baht for taxi, however later I realize that fare to his place is probably closer to 120. Should have given 200!

Tue 18 to Thu 20jul2017

Fri 21jul2017
Silom Plaza ground level The Best Massage some boys sitting outside 16:30.

Go to Huay Kwang area to have dinner with a boy Bas from hornet who will become BFC6in2017, and ex-BFC6in2017, full story soon separately. Spend some time with him, hence lower other activities rest of the month.

Thu 27jul2017
Nake and Farose II saunas.

Fri 28jul2017
Rit the Muslim, 1000 Bath, no pics and video, all fine but is getting boring.

Sat 29jul2017
Macho Sauna show, fatty and Golf (41 years old and still cute face and shapely body), warm upper back but cold butt cheeks, gets heavily involved with one customer, my style, and I get first row access to grope him and get a full erection. Wanking would be a waste of cum, I should have asked if someone in audience wants to suck me. 

Sun 30jul2017
Take bus to Victory Monument to meet a boy Game there. He is indifferent to my sightseeing suggestions (a temple and a museum in walking distance, both are on my list anyway), so I suggest we got to my place (by bus and walking; taxi sends a wrong signal). In my room all fine in bed, and if he hadn't too much body hair could be BFC. Doesn’t accept 100 THB for return, a good start, will meet again some day! 

Summary Jul 2017: 

A new trend emerges: fewer saunas, instead go to meet boys near their place. Time and money spent is about the same, but with only 1 out of 5 sauna visits successful (statistic over 200 sauna visits in 3 years, often I don't even take condoms as an act of defeatism), and 1 out of 2 boy visits successful (i.e. leading directly to sex, the others not my type or I'm not their type or sex on second date*, early estimate), I will explore that road.

*I don't have to have sex on first date, but if we don't have sex on second date, there is something wrong.

6 Free sex: Lek Samut Prakran (200 taxi), Chin Pinklao (100 taxi), 3xBas, Game ViMo.
7 Paid sex: Rit the Muslim 1000, GPlok and his brother 500+500, Gaeng Nice Boys 1000, Micky Vientiane 1000, Rit the Muslim 1000 = 5000.
Health no expenses.

4 Sauna: Safe House, Nake, Farose II, Macho.
6 Gogo: Winner, Nice Boys, Power Boys, Prism, Kawaii, A-Bomb.
3 no sex: Dream, Chin Pinklao (1st meeting), Bas Plok (1st meeting).
1 Host bar: Euro Boys.
5 Boys from hornet: Lek Samut Prakarn, Chin Pinklao, Micky Vientiane, Bas Plok, Game Victory Monument.

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